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		<title>22nd Carnival of Feminist Science Fiction – Part III</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 04:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nelilly</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[[The Carnival of Feminist Science Fiction and Fantasy is held roughly once a month, with rotating hosts.]
Aside from the wealth of posts listed from The Hathor Legacy in Part II, I reviewed some of the older carnivals, and found that there were older posts on the topic that should probably be brought back out into [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[The <a href="http://carnival.feministsf.net/">Carnival of Feminist Science Fiction and Fantasy</a> is held roughly once a month, with rotating hosts.]</p>
<p>Aside from the wealth of posts listed from <em>The Hathor Legacy</em> in Part II, I reviewed some of the older carnivals, and found that there were older posts on the topic that should probably be brought back out into the light.</p>
<p><a href="http://ragnell.blogspot.com/2006/07/first-carnival-of-feminist-science.html">1st Carnival</a> at <a href="http://ragnell.blogspot.com/2006/07/first-carnival-of-feminist-science.html">Written World</a></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://kalinara.blogspot.com/2006/06/where-no-woman-had-gone-before.html">Where No Woman Has Gone Before</a> (on the “Calamity Jane” of <em>Star Trek: The Next Generation</em>)</li>
<li><a href="http://asmallgreenangel.blogspot.com/2006/06/must-see-video.html">Must See Video</a> (Joss Whedon on Strong Women)</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://kalinara.blogspot.com/2006/07/second-carnival-of-feminist-science.html">2nd Carnival</a> at <a href="http://kalinara.blogspot.com/">Pretty, Fizzy Paradise</a></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://moonlit-reading.livejournal.com/421.html">What is Science Fiction?</a> (the history of science fiction from a feminist perspective)</li>
<li><a href="http://lesbianpiratequeen.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-cult-of-princess-leias-metal-bikini/">The Cult of Princess Leia’s Metal Bikini</a></li>
<li><a href="http://archive.blogsome.com/2006/07/11/battlestar-galactica-biopolitics/">BSG part 2 &#8211; femina ex machina</a> (contains an excellent quote: <em>Humanity is ‘very, very good at dehumanizing their enemy to justify their own needs,’</em>)</li>
<li><a href="http://myamusementpark.blogspot.com/2006/07/my-love-affair-with-almost-love-affair.html">My Love Affair with the Almost Love Affair Between Starbuck and Apollo</a> (“Battlestar Gallactica doesn’t condescend to its women fighters”)</li>
<li><a href="http://lance-wouldyou.blogspot.com/2006/07/would-you-like-some-racism-with-your.html">Would you like some racism with your sci-fi?</a></li>
<li><a href="http://waxbanks.typepad.com/blog/2006/07/is_joss_whedon_.html">Is Joss Whedon Feminist <em>enough</em>?</a></li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-08-25_356">4th Carnival</a> at <a href="http://blog.shrub.com/">Shrub.com</a> [<a href="http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/08/25/feminist-sf-carnival-4th-edition/">mirrored</a> at <a href="http://www.amptoons.com/blog/">Alas, a Blog</a>]</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://heavenscalyx.livejournal.com/943508.html">Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/star-trek-deep-space-nine-jadzias-gender/">Star Trek: Deep Space Nine – Jadzia’s Gender</a></li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/the-sixth-feminist-sf-carnival/">6th Carnival</a> at <a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/">The Hathor Legacy</a></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://bitchphd.blogspot.com/2006/09/space-chicks.html">SPACE CHICKS: An alternative history of the future</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blogs.feministsf.net/?p=67">Agency, Chivalry, and Self-Replicating Men: Another Look at Gender in the ‘Verse</a></li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://girl-wonder.org/LeagueofSubstituteSuperheroes/?p=23">9th Carnival</a> at <a href="http://girl-wonder.org/LeagueofSubstituteSuperheroes/">League of Substitute Superheroes</a></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/seven-of-nine-and-anise/">Seven of Nine and Anise</a></li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://allreb.blogspot.com/2007/02/tenth-carnival-of-feminist-science.html">10th Carnival</a> at <a href="http://allreb.blogspot.com/">Adventures in Lame</a></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://westmark.blogspot.com/2007/01/some-thoughts-on-mary-sue.html">Some Thoughts on Mary Sue</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.info/star-trek-deep-space-nine-kasidys-convictions/">Kasidy’s Convictions</a></li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://elayneriggs.blogspot.com/2007/04/12th-carnival-of-feminist-science.html">12th Carnival</a> at <a href="http://elayneriggs.blogspot.com/">Pen-Elayne</a></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://tlonista.wordpress.com/2007/03/11/life-after-starbuck/">Life after Starbuck</a></li>
<li><a href="http://bitchphd.blogspot.com/2007/03/feminism-in-space.html">John Patrick writing about Feminism in Space</a></li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://naamenblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/03/13th-carnival-of-feminist-science-fiction-fantasy-fans/">13th Carnival</a> at <a href="http://naamenblog.wordpress.com/">Words from the Center, Words from the Edge</a></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.heroinecontent.net/archives/2007/04/in_defense_of_ripley.html" target="_blank">In Defense of Ripley</a></li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://www.heroinecontent.net/archives/2007/05/14th_carnival_of_feminist_scie.html">14th Carnival</a> at <a href="http://heroinecontent.net/">Heroine Content</a></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://misssophiebuildsherarmy.blogspot.com/2007/05/princess-leia-made-me-feminist.html">Princess Leia Made Me A Feminist</a></li>
<li><a href="http://ali.ethanet.com/scifiwomen.html">Alison Sommer, from her collection Strong Women of Sci-Fi</a></li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://westmark.blogspot.com/2007/08/16th-feminist-sf-carnival.html">16th Carnival</a> at <a href="http://westmark.blogspot.com/">The True Confessions of an Hourly Bookseller</a></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.jivemagazine.com/column.php?pid=3381">The Complex and Terrifying Reality of Star Wars Fandom</a> (<em>Star Wars</em> fans hate <em>Star Wars</em>)</li>
<li><a href="http://westmark.blogspot.com/2007/07/my-first-idol.html">My First Idol</a> (Princess Leia)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.megcabot.com/diary/?p=501">The Reason We Are Relocating To Indiana on Tuesday</a> (loves Leia)</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://girl-wonder.org/girlsreadcomics/?p=124">19th Carnival</a> at <a href="http://girl-wonder.org/girlsreadcomics/">Girls Read Comics, and They&#8217;re Pissed</a></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://gamerchick.livejournal.com/404969.html">Of genre television, Helena Cain, and Gender Roles</a></li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://www.heroinecontent.net/archives/2008/05/21st_carnival_of_feminist_scie.html">21st Carnival</a> at <a href="http://www.heroinecontent.net/">Heroine Content</a></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.heroinecontent.net/archives/2008/04/firefly_television_series.html">Firefly and Serenity</a></li>
</ul>
<p>[This is Part III. <a href="http://www.spacewesterns.com/sideshow/2008/11/02/22nd-carnival-of-feminist-science-fiction-%e2%80%93-part-i/">Part I</a> and <a href="http://www.spacewesterns.com/sideshow/2008/11/03/22nd-carnival-of-feminist-science-fiction-%e2%80%93-part-ii/">Part II</a> were published previously.]</p>
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		<title>22nd Carnival of Feminist Science Fiction – Part II</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nelilly</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[[The Carnival of Feminist Science Fiction and Fantasy is held roughly once a month, with rotating hosts.]
In researching blog posts I found a veritable wealth of Space Western related posts at The Hathor Legacy: It was such an astounding collection that I felt it must be shared&#8230;

Keeping female aliens pretty

Star Trek

Star Trek Deep Space Nine: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[The <a href="http://carnival.feministsf.net/">Carnival of Feminist Science Fiction and Fantasy</a> is held roughly once a month, with rotating hosts.]</p>
<p>In researching blog posts I found a veritable wealth of Space Western related posts at <em>The Hathor Legacy</em>: It was such an astounding collection that I felt it must be shared&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/keeping-female-aliens-pretty/">Keeping female aliens pretty</a></li>
</ul>
<h2>Star Trek</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/star-trek-deep-space-nine-the-quality-and-equality-link/">Star Trek Deep Space Nine: the quality and equality link</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/chakotay-is-my-co-pilot/">Chakotay is my Co-Pilot</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/seven-of-nine-and-anise/">Seven of Nine and Anise</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/kes-dumped-for-a-younger-sex-symbol/">Kes: dumped for a younger sex symbol</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/star-trek-deep-space-nine-keikos-career/"><em>Star Trek: Deep Space Nine</em> &#8211; Keiko’s Career</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/voyager-and-the-patriarchy/"><em>Voyager </em>and the Patriarchy</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/authority-v-femininity/">Authority v. Femininity</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/star-trek-deep-space-nine-%e2%80%93-leeta%e2%80%99s-love-life/"><em>Star Trek: Deep Space Nine</em> &#8211; Leeta’s Love Life</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/star-trek-deep-space-nine-jadzias-gender/"><em>Star Trek: Deep Space Nine</em> &#8211; Jadzia’s Gender</a></li>
</ul>
<h2>Battlestar Galactica</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/bsg-roslin-and-adamas-relationship/">BsG: Roslin and Adama’s Relationship</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/bsg-apollo-gets-his-kit-off/">BsG: Apollo Gets His Kit Off</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/carter-vs-roslin/">Carter Vs Roslin</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/maternal-instinct/">Maternal Instinct</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/starbuck-revisited/">Starbuck Revisited</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/the-women-of-battlestargalactica-six/">The Women of Battlestar:Galactica; Six</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/the-women-of-battlestargalactica-laura-roslin/">The Women of Battlestar:Galactica; Laura Roslin</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/the-women-of-battlestargalactica-sharon-valeriiboomer/">The Women of Battlestar:Galactica; Sharon Valerii/Boomer</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/the-women-of-battlestargalactica-kera-thracestarbuck/">The Women of Battlestar:Galactica; Kera Thrace/Starbuck</a></li>
</ul>
<h2>Firefly/Serenity</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/firefly-the-trouble-with-saffron/">Firefly: The Trouble With Saffron</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/how-to-write-good-ship-that-doesnt-demean-the-woman-zoe-and-wash-from-fireflyserenity/">How to Write Good Ship That Doesn’t Demean the Woman: Zoe and Wash from Firefly/Serenity</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/inaras-misogynistic-client/">Inara’s misogynistic client</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/the-women-of-fireflyserenity-kaylee/">The Women of Firefly/Serenity: Kaylee</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/the-women-of-fireflyserenity-zoe/">The Women of Firefly/Serenity: Zoe</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/hearts-of-gold-backbones-of-steel/">Hearts of Gold, Backbones of Steel</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/women-viewers-need-not-apply/">Women viewers need not apply</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/the-one-thing-i-don%e2%80%99t-like-about-firefly-and-serenity/">The One Thing I Don’t Like About Firefly and Serenity</a></li>
</ul>
<p>[This is Part II. <a href="http://www.spacewesterns.com/sideshow/2008/11/02/22nd-carnival-of-feminist-science-fiction-%e2%80%93-part-i/">Part I</a> and <a href="http://www.spacewesterns.com/sideshow/2008/11/04/22nd-carnival-of-feminist-science-fiction-%e2%80%93-part-iii/">Part III</a> are also available.]</p>
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		<title>22nd Carnival of Feminist Science Fiction – Part I</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 04:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nelilly</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[[The Carnival of Feminist Science Fiction and Fantasy is held roughly once a month, with rotating hosts.]
Space Westerns: Star Wars, Star Trek, Firefly… when you get right down to it, most science fiction on television traces its roots back to the Western, where most problems could be solved at the end of 60 minutes with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[The <a href="http://carnival.feministsf.net/">Carnival of Feminist Science Fiction and Fantasy</a> is held roughly once a month, with rotating hosts.]</p>
<p>Space Westerns: <em>Star Wars</em>, <em>Star Trek</em>, <em>Firefly</em>… when you get right down to it, most science fiction on television traces its roots back to the Western, where most problems could be solved at the end of 60 minutes with a violent shootout. For the most part America hasn’t grown beyond the Western. Conflicts between Good vs. Evil, the fight against that “alien other”, the need to explore the frontier, the need to conquer and have dominion over the natural world – when you put it like that you can see that the Western never died, it just changed uniforms.</p>
<p>Camille Alexa graces us with a four-part post:</p>
<p><em>Part I: a <a href="http://camillealexa.livejournal.com/12860.html">conversation with A Dude</a></em><br />
<em>Part II: a <a href="http://camillealexa.livejournal.com/13278.html">conversation with An Editor</a></em><br />
<em>Part III: <a href="http://camillealexa.livejournal.com/13650.html">Q/A with author Jessica Reisman</a></em><br />
<em>Part IV: <a href="http://camillealexa.livejournal.com/13932.html">Where Tina Connolly and I veer into the uncharted frontier of Cozypunk</a></em></p>
<h2>Firefly</h2>
<p>There’s no way to do a Carnival where Feminism and Space Western intersect without mentioning Joss Whedon’s <em>Firefly</em>. It stems back all the way to <a href="http://www.slayageonline.com/Mr_Pointy/Amy-Chinn_Tis%20Pity%20She%27s%20a%20Whore.pdf"><span>‘Tis Pity She’s a Whore’: Postfeminist Prostitution in Joss Whedon’s Firefly?</span></a> (pdf).</p>
<p><em>Heroine Content</em> recently viewed and reviewed <a href="http://www.heroinecontent.net/archives/2008/04/firefly_television_series.html">Firefly and Serenity</a>.</p>
<p>Socrates referred to himself as a gadfly and was poisoned by those he tried to educate. Why? Because he challenged their most dearly held assumptions. People hate that. It’s interesting to see the spirit live again in a multiracial Radical Feminist Lesbian, Allecto, who posted <a href="http://users.livejournal.com/_allecto_/34718.html">A Rapist’s View of the World: Joss Whedon and Firefly</a>, <a href="http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/a-rapists-view-of-the-world-our-mrs-reynolds-part-one/">A Rapist’s View of the World: Our Mrs. Reynolds: Part One</a>, and <a href="http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/05/02/a-wife-beaters-view-of-the-world-our-mrs-reynolds-part-two/">A Wife-Beater’s View of the World: Our Mrs. Reynolds Part Two</a>. You have to admit that it <em>did</em> cause discussion. Responses were varied and fan outrage was high (<a href="http://nataliaantonova.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/allectos-joss-whedon-rant-raped-my-miiiiind/">Allecto’s Joss Whedon Rant Raped My Miiiiind</a>). But what really seemed to be at stake was what <em>Words From The Center, Words From The Edge</em> talks about in <a href="http://naamenblog.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/critiquing-joss-whedon/">Critiquing Joss Whedon</a>. <em>The Hathor Legacy</em> sums it up in <span><a title="Permanent Link to Joss Whedon and feminist cookies" href="http://thehathorlegacy.com/joss-whedon-and-feminist-cookies/">Joss Whedon and feminist cookies</a>: “</span>No one deserves accolades for being a feminist &#8230; no one deserves is insulation from criticism.”</p>
<h2>Star Wars</h2>
<p>Stanley Schmidt, editor of <em>Analog</em>, says, “Star Wars is a Western – with really good special effects.” While Princess Leia was a competent leader of the rebellion, it’s a little sad to see her part has since devolved to <a href="http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/2006/07/71267">The Cult of Leia’s Metal Bikini</a>.</p>
<h2>Alien</h2>
<p><em>Alien</em> seems to follow in the tradition of the Indian abduction stories. What you have is an “alien other” who is fighting with us to subsume our reproductive rights (as a race). What is really interesting to me (again, as an intersection of Space Westerns and Feminism) is <a href="http://www.stillindie.com/2008/09/bechdel-rule-aka-ripleys-rule.html">The Bechdel Rule (AKA Ripley’s Rule)</a>. <em>Cinemathematics</em> explores <a href="http://cinemathematics.blogspot.com/2007/06/two-ripleys.html">The Two Ripleys</a> while <span>John Scalzi believes that <a href="http://blogs.amctv.com/scifi-scanner/2008/08/ellen-ripley-strong-women-in-scifi.php">Ellen Ripley Paved the Way for Strong Female Leads</a>.</span></p>
<p>[This is Part I. <a href="http://www.spacewesterns.com/sideshow/2008/11/03/22nd-carnival-of-feminist-science-fiction-%e2%80%93-part-ii/">Part II</a> and <a href="http://www.spacewesterns.com/sideshow/2008/11/04/22nd-carnival-of-feminist-science-fiction-%e2%80%93-part-iii/">Part III</a> are also available.]</p>
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		<title>Coming Soon: 22nd Carnival of Feminist Science Fiction</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nelilly</dc:creator>
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The 22nd Carnival of Feminist Science Fiction will be hosted on the SpaceWesterns.com Sideshow. Our specific topic suggestion: Women in Space Westerns. Send submissions (blogged between May 3rd, 2008 and October 28th, 2008) to Nathan E. Lilly. Additional submission information is available on the submissions page.
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The <a href="http://carnival.feministsf.net/">22nd Carnival of Feminist Science Fiction</a> will be hosted on the SpaceWesterns.com <a href="http://www.spacewesterns.com/sideshow/">Sideshow</a>. Our specific topic suggestion: <em>Women in Space Westerns</em>. Send submissions (blogged between May 3rd, 2008 and October 28th, 2008) to Nathan E. Lilly. Additional submission information is available on the <a href="http://www.spacewesterns.com/submissions/#22ndCarnival">submissions</a> page.</p>
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